Carronade - Rivière-du-Loup, Québec
Posted by: Groundspeak Premium Member Weathervane
N 47° 50.469 W 069° 32.322
19T E 459692 N 5298785
Cette carronade est située sur le terrain du Manoir Fraser, sur la rue Fraser, à Rivière-du-Loup, Québec. This carronade is located on the grounds of the Fraser Manor, on Fraser Street, in Rivière-du-Loup, Quebec.
Waymark Code: WM1085V
Location: Québec, Canada
Date Posted: 03/19/2019
Published By:Groundspeak Premium Member NCDaywalker
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Caronade

Une caronade ou carronade est une pièce d'artillerie courte développée par la fonderie écossaise Carron à partir de 1779. Elle est mise en service sur tous les navires de la Royal Navy trois années après les essais sur le HMS Duke (vaisseau de 2e rang de 90 canons). Les carronades n'étaient pas comptées dans le nombre de canons d'un vaisseau mais pouvaient constituer l'armement principal d'une frégate ou d'un brick.

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D'où vient cette carronade et pourquoi est-elle située à côté d'une rue animée, au milieu d'une ville de 20 000 habitants. Je n'ai trouvé aucune preuve de sa provenance sur le site ou sur Internet, mais on peut spéculer sur son origine sur la base des éléments suivants:

"En 1673, la concession initiale de la seigneurie de Rivière-du-Loup fut faite à Charles Aubert de la Chesnaye, qui y installa le premier poste de traite.

Après la Conquête, la seigneurie est devenue la propriété du gouverneur anglais James Murray. Le gouverneur Murray confia à Malcom Fraser la seigneurie du mont Murray, l'actuelle Malbaie, ainsi que la gestion de la seigneurie de Rivière-du-Loup, en reconnaissance de ses exploits sur le champ de bataille. Il était un écossais et le premier de sa lignée à atterrir en Amérique du Nord.

En 1802, il a aidé l'un de ses fils, Alexander (Fraser), à acquérir la seigneurie de Rivière-du-Loup ainsi que celles de Témiscouata et de Madawaska. "

Considérant que Murray et Fraser étaient tous deux des commandants militaires de haut rang, cette carronade avait peut-être été installée sur la seigneurie pour défendre la propriété en cas d'éventuelles attaques françaises, ou peut-être avait-elle été mise au rebut comme équipement excédentaire et laissée sur la propriété du Manoir.

Carronade

A carronade is a short, smoothbore, cast iron cannon which was used by the Royal Navy and first produced by the Carron Company, an ironworks in Falkirk, Scotland. It was used from the 1770s to the 1850s. Its main function was to serve as a powerful, short-range, anti-ship and anti-crew weapon.

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Where does this carronade come from and why is it displayed next to a busy street in the middle of a town of 20,000 people. I have not found evidence of its provenance on site or on the internet, but one can speculate as to its origin based on the following:

"In 1673, the initial grant of the Rivière-du-Loup seigniory was made to Charles Aubert de la Chesnaye, who set up the first trading post there. 

After the Conquest, the seigniory became the property of the English governor James Murray. Governor Murray entrusted the seignory of Mount Murray, now Malbaie, and the management of the seigniory of Rivière-du-Loup to Malcom Fraser, in recognition of his feats on the battlefield. He, a Scot, was the first of his line to land in North America.

In 1802, he helped one of his sons, Alexander (Fraser), acquire the seigniory of Rivière-du-Loup as well as those Temiscouata and Madawaska."

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Considering that both Murray and Fraser were high ranking military commanders, this carronade may have been set up on the seigniory to defend the property from future potential French attacks, or maybe, it was discarded as surplus equipment and left on the Manor’s property.
What type of artillery is this?: Carronade

Where is this artillery located?: Other

What military of the world used this device?: Britannique - British

Date artillery was in use: 01/01/1779

Artillery is no longer operational: yes

Still may work: no

Date artillery was placed on display: Not listed

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Are there any geocaches at this location?: Not listed

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